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Steve Jobs on Personal Computers (1981)
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The big takeaway
In this 1981 interview, 25-year-old Steve Jobs explains why personal computers will transform society by democratizing computing power. He uses the analogy of the fractional horsepower motor to show how computers will evolve from large, shared machines to individual tools that amplify human intellectual ability. Jobs discusses Apple's market strategy, the difference between personal and home computers, and predicts rapid cultural integration through education and familiarity with interactive devices.
The Personal Computer Revolution
Personal Computers as Fractional Horsepower
Jobs uses the electric motor's evolution as an analogy: early motors were large and expensive, then time-sharing allowed one large computer to serve 40-50 terminals, and finally fractional horsepower motors brought power directly to individuals. Personal computers represent the same shift—a 12-pound machine that can be cost-justified on a personal scale, creating a one-on-one relationship between person and computer.
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Large, expensive electric motors (late 1800s)
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Shared motors with belts and pulleys (factory era)
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Fractional horsepower motors (personal scale)
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Large computers (ENIAC, 1946)
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Time-sharing computers (1960s, 40-50 terminals)
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Personal computers (12 lbs, individual use)
Evolution of computing power from shared to personal
Personal vs. Home Computer Markets
Jobs deliberately avoids calling computers 'home computers' because the home market hasn't matured yet. He segments the market into education, professional, small business, home consumer, and scientific industrial. The home is viewed as a location where personal computers are used for various functions (financial analysis, education, laboratory work), not as a primary market, because there aren't yet enough specific applications to justify $1,000-3,000 spending.
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Education
Growing
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Professional
Growing
3
Small Business
Growing
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Scientific/Industrial
Growing
5
Home Consumer
Smallest/Not Ready
Apple's market segments in 1981
Man as a Tool Maker
Jobs references a Scientific American article comparing locomotion efficiency across species. The condor ranked highest, but when researchers tested man riding a bicycle, it was twice as efficient as the condor. This illustrates humanity's ability to fashion tools that amplify inherent abilities. Personal computers are the 21st-century bicycle—tools to amplify intellectual ability and reduce drudgery.
Condor
1 efficiency
Man (unassisted)
0.33 efficiency
Man on bicycle
2 efficiency
Efficiency of locomotion: tool-making amplifies human ability
Adoption and Cultural Integration
Rapid Adoption in Education
Jobs cites Minnesota as the leading state, where over 97% of high school graduates have hands-on experience with an Apple computer before graduation. This early exposure is accelerating the integration of personal computers into society as kids grow up familiar with the technology and carry that knowledge into college and professional life.
97%
Minnesota high school graduates with hands-on Apple experience
Leading indicator of rapid technology adoption
Historical Precedents for Rapid Change
Jobs points to two recent examples of technology transforming society in under 20 years. The first xerox machine was introduced less than 20 years prior (in 1961), and the HP-35 scientific calculator was introduced in 1972. By 1978, the largest slide rule manufacturer stopped production entirely because the market had vanished in just six years, proving that radical shifts in how we work can happen in a lifetime.
1961
First Xerox machine introduced
1972
HP-35 handheld calculator introduced
1978
Largest slide rule manufacturer stops production
1981
Personal computer adoption accelerating
Technology adoption timelines show rapid market transformation
Familiarity Through Interactive Devices
Jobs notes that people are becoming increasingly comfortable with intelligent electronic devices through video games, automated bank tellers, and other interactive systems. This cultural shift is preparing society to adopt personal computers, as people are already learning to interact with intelligent devices in everyday life.
Impact on Work and Creativity
Shift from Drudgery to Creativity
Apple has shipped over 150,000 personal computers in five years, and across all applications, the pattern is consistent: people are freed from routine drudgery to focus on conceptual and creative problem-solving. Rather than doing traditional work, users can think about the creative issues and let the computer handle the computational burden.
150,000+
Personal computers shipped by Apple in 5 years
Demonstrating rapid adoption and real-world impact
Transformation of Job Descriptions
At Apple, secretaries have been replaced by 'area administrators' who use computers for word processing, departmental budgeting, and forecasting. Job descriptions are being redefined to enable more creative work rather than routine administrative tasks. This pattern is appearing across education, where students learn at their own pace through interactive computer engagement rather than passive one-way communication.
Traditional Role
Secretaries doing typing and administrative drudgery
Computer-Enabled Role
Area administrators doing creative problem-solving and strategic work
How personal computers are redefining job descriptions
Enrichment, Not Obsolescence
Jobs emphasizes that personal computers are enriching what people do rather than making them obsolete. While slide rules disappeared when calculators arrived, personal computers are fundamentally different—they're decentralized, democratic, and empowering rather than the centralized, surveillance-oriented computers depicted in dystopian fiction like 1984.
Apple's Strategy and Vision
Tools, Not Toys
Jobs distinguishes Apple from competitors like Mattel and Atari by describing Apple's business as making tools rather than toys. While other companies focus on entertainment value, Apple is committed to providing the 'bicycle' tool that amplifies human intellectual ability.
The Paradox of Simplicity
To make computers easier to use requires more sophisticated technology, not less. Apple must spend more computer power adapting the machine to how people naturally work, rather than forcing people to adapt to how computers work. This paradox explains why home computers remain expensive—the easiest-to-use computers require the most sophisticated engineering and therefore cost more.
Price and Power Trajectory
Jobs predicts that computer prices will not tumble in the next few years but will remain stable or even increase slightly. However, users will get dramatically more computing power for the same dollar, and more importantly, computers will become dramatically easier to use. The focus is on capability and usability, not price reduction.
Current Expectation
Prices will drop significantly
Jobs' Prediction
Prices stable/slightly up; power and ease increase dramatically
Challenging conventional wisdom on technology pricing
Integration Timeline
Jobs estimates that the process of integrating personal computers into society will take approximately 10 years to conclude. The key to continued growth is making computers progressively easier to use, which requires increasingly sophisticated technology.
10 years
Estimated timeline for full societal integration of personal computers
Jobs' forecast from 1981
Silicon Valley Culture and Growth
Entrepreneurial Risk Culture
Jobs describes Silicon Valley as one of the finest examples of entrepreneurial risk culture in the world. He and Wozniak grew up here with role models like Bill Hewlett and Dave Packard, founders of HP. Jobs sees himself and Wozniak as carrying on that tradition of innovation and risk-taking.
Hiring Philosophy and Rapid Growth
Jobs' greatest joy is hiring people better than himself in specific areas. Apple hires senior-level talent for current junior positions, knowing the company will grow so rapidly (several hundred percent per year) that the role will be right-sized in six months and the employee will be scrambling to keep up within a year. This creates a unique, high-growth environment.
Several hundred %
Annual growth rate at Apple
Enabling rapid role expansion for hired talent
Success Measured by Freedom
At age 25, Jobs measures his success by whether he can take a three-month vacation. So far, he hasn't been able to, indicating he's still building and hasn't yet achieved the freedom he seeks. This reflects his intense commitment to the mission of integrating personal computers into society.
Worth quoting
"We think we're basically fashioning a 21st century bicycle here which can amplify an inherent intellectual ability that man has."
— Steve Jobs, at [6:09]
"The paradox in our industry right now is to make a computer simpler to use requires a more sophisticated computer."
— Steve Jobs, at [11:47]
"We don't really feel we've accomplished what we set out to do yet. We've set out to really help lead this process of getting personal computers into the society."
— Steve Jobs, at [13:17]
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Steve Jobs on Personal Computers (1981)

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In this 1981 interview, 25-year-old Steve Jobs explains why personal computers will transform society by democratizing computing power. He uses the analogy of the fractional horsepower motor to show how computers will evolve from large, shared machines to individual tools that amplify human intellectual ability. Jobs discusses Apple's market strategy, the difference between personal and home computers, and predicts rapid cultural integration through education and familiarity with interactive devices.

The Personal Computer Revolution

Personal Computers as Fractional Horsepower

Jobs uses the electric motor's evolution as an analogy: early motors were large and expensive, then time-sharing allowed one large computer to serve 40-50 terminals, and finally fractional horsepower motors brought power directly to individuals. Personal computers represent the same shift—a 12-pound machine that can be cost-justified on a personal scale, creating a one-on-one relationship between person and computer.

Personal vs. Home Computer Markets

Jobs deliberately avoids calling computers 'home computers' because the home market hasn't matured yet. He segments the market into education, professional, small business, home consumer, and scientific industrial. The home is viewed as a location where personal computers are used for various functions (financial analysis, education, laboratory work), not as a primary market, because there aren't yet enough specific applications to justify $1,000-3,000 spending.

Man as a Tool Maker

Jobs references a Scientific American article comparing locomotion efficiency across species. The condor ranked highest, but when researchers tested man riding a bicycle, it was twice as efficient as the condor. This illustrates humanity's ability to fashion tools that amplify inherent abilities. Personal computers are the 21st-century bicycle—tools to amplify intellectual ability and reduce drudgery.

Adoption and Cultural Integration

Rapid Adoption in Education

Jobs cites Minnesota as the leading state, where over 97% of high school graduates have hands-on experience with an Apple computer before graduation. This early exposure is accelerating the integration of personal computers into society as kids grow up familiar with the technology and carry that knowledge into college and professional life.

Historical Precedents for Rapid Change

Jobs points to two recent examples of technology transforming society in under 20 years. The first xerox machine was introduced less than 20 years prior (in 1961), and the HP-35 scientific calculator was introduced in 1972. By 1978, the largest slide rule manufacturer stopped production entirely because the market had vanished in just six years, proving that radical shifts in how we work can happen in a lifetime.

Familiarity Through Interactive Devices

Jobs notes that people are becoming increasingly comfortable with intelligent electronic devices through video games, automated bank tellers, and other interactive systems. This cultural shift is preparing society to adopt personal computers, as people are already learning to interact with intelligent devices in everyday life.

Impact on Work and Creativity

Shift from Drudgery to Creativity

Apple has shipped over 150,000 personal computers in five years, and across all applications, the pattern is consistent: people are freed from routine drudgery to focus on conceptual and creative problem-solving. Rather than doing traditional work, users can think about the creative issues and let the computer handle the computational burden.

Transformation of Job Descriptions

At Apple, secretaries have been replaced by 'area administrators' who use computers for word processing, departmental budgeting, and forecasting. Job descriptions are being redefined to enable more creative work rather than routine administrative tasks. This pattern is appearing across education, where students learn at their own pace through interactive computer engagement rather than passive one-way communication.

Enrichment, Not Obsolescence

Jobs emphasizes that personal computers are enriching what people do rather than making them obsolete. While slide rules disappeared when calculators arrived, personal computers are fundamentally different—they're decentralized, democratic, and empowering rather than the centralized, surveillance-oriented computers depicted in dystopian fiction like 1984.

Apple's Strategy and Vision

Tools, Not Toys

Jobs distinguishes Apple from competitors like Mattel and Atari by describing Apple's business as making tools rather than toys. While other companies focus on entertainment value, Apple is committed to providing the 'bicycle' tool that amplifies human intellectual ability.

The Paradox of Simplicity

To make computers easier to use requires more sophisticated technology, not less. Apple must spend more computer power adapting the machine to how people naturally work, rather than forcing people to adapt to how computers work. This paradox explains why home computers remain expensive—the easiest-to-use computers require the most sophisticated engineering and therefore cost more.

Price and Power Trajectory

Jobs predicts that computer prices will not tumble in the next few years but will remain stable or even increase slightly. However, users will get dramatically more computing power for the same dollar, and more importantly, computers will become dramatically easier to use. The focus is on capability and usability, not price reduction.

Integration Timeline

Jobs estimates that the process of integrating personal computers into society will take approximately 10 years to conclude. The key to continued growth is making computers progressively easier to use, which requires increasingly sophisticated technology.

Silicon Valley Culture and Growth

Entrepreneurial Risk Culture

Jobs describes Silicon Valley as one of the finest examples of entrepreneurial risk culture in the world. He and Wozniak grew up here with role models like Bill Hewlett and Dave Packard, founders of HP. Jobs sees himself and Wozniak as carrying on that tradition of innovation and risk-taking.

Hiring Philosophy and Rapid Growth

Jobs' greatest joy is hiring people better than himself in specific areas. Apple hires senior-level talent for current junior positions, knowing the company will grow so rapidly (several hundred percent per year) that the role will be right-sized in six months and the employee will be scrambling to keep up within a year. This creates a unique, high-growth environment.

Success Measured by Freedom

At age 25, Jobs measures his success by whether he can take a three-month vacation. So far, he hasn't been able to, indicating he's still building and hasn't yet achieved the freedom he seeks. This reflects his intense commitment to the mission of integrating personal computers into society.

Notable quotes

We think we're basically fashioning a 21st century bicycle here which can amplify an inherent intellectual ability that man has. — Steve Jobs
The paradox in our industry right now is to make a computer simpler to use requires a more sophisticated computer. — Steve Jobs
We don't really feel we've accomplished what we set out to do yet. We've set out to really help lead this process of getting personal computers into the society. — Steve Jobs

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